Official: Dems Reject Latest GOP Deficit Offer

By: Andrew Taylor, Associated Press
By: Andrew Taylor, Associated Press

Washington, D.C. (AP) - A congressional official says Democrats on the deficit-cutting supercommittee have rejected a last-ditch offer
from the Republicans that would curb deficits by $545 billion over
the next decade.

The latest development raised serious doubts about the 12-member
bipartisan panel reaching an agreement by Wednesday's deadline.

Democrats called it a "halfway" proposal and said it was unbalanced because it included just $3 billion in tax revenue.

The panel's mandate is to produce a plan to cut deficits by at least $1.2 trillion over 10 years. If they fail, it would trigger automatic, across-the-board cuts to the Pentagon and a wide variety of domestic programs.

The congressional official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the talks.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


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  • by Franklin on Nov 19, 2011 at 04:45 PM
    The Dems want huge government so we will be where we are until we rid ourselves of that poison.
  • by Gerry Location: Tallahassee on Nov 19, 2011 at 08:01 AM
    Republican do not want to balance the budget. Republicans want to shrink the size of government. Cutting spending, or increasing taxes, or a combination of both, would cut the deficit. Democrats want more taxes and less spending. Republicans only want less spending. Which side is responsible for no agreement?
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      by Anonymous on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:12 PM in reply to Gerry
      Which "side" ? both of them. Both Republican and Democratic members of Congress for over 30 years have been spending more money than was collected in all combined revenue. Solution: vote then ALL out of office for incompetence and unsatisfactory job performance just like any other citizen that gets laid off (fired) for doing a shoddy job.
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        by Gerry on Nov 19, 2011 at 03:04 PM in reply to
        Why don't you get a name and why don't you read what I wrote? The agreement today, right now, the one that's due next week. I'm not talking about the last 30 years or the next election. Vote them all out? That's easier than thinking or finding out and besides, you only vote on 1 Representative and 2 Senators.
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      by Reagan Republican on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:16 PM in reply to Gerry
      @ Gerry Repub. have voted for just a balanced budget admendment in the mid 90's and on the House floor this week and the Democrats ALWAYS vote it down. These are the facts of the VOTES in Congress on this matter. Yes, please shrink the size of our Federal Govt.! The Repub. have put on the table revenue tax increases and the current super comm. disagreement is the ratio of spending cuts to tax revenue increases. Tell the truth you liar....
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        by Anonymous on Nov 19, 2011 at 03:01 PM in reply to Reagan Republican
        You are dense beyond belief. Another comment Hoyer made during the BBA debate was that a BBA wasn't needed but a balanced budget was. The article says Republicans want to increase tax revenue by $3 billion over a decade. That's ludicrously small. The deficit last fy was $1.3 trillion.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:42 AM in reply to
          Why did you post as Anony. instead of Gerry? You have called me dense many times before and I just consider the source. Why do you make comments to insult someone's intelligence because it only makes you look ludicrous. Rep. Steny Hoyer is the Democrat whip, so, I missed your point about his illogical comment. Again, the disagreement is the ratio of spending cuts to tax revenues.
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          by Gerry on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:33 AM in reply to
          @RR I posted as Anonymous at 6:01 PM, noticed it, but got distracted, and didn't correct it.
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        by Anonymous on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:42 AM in reply to Reagan Republican
        That's a funny line: the argument is over the ratio. Republicans want a ratio of 180 to 1 of cuts to taxes. I say 3 parts in 545 is essentially nothing. Those in favor of a balanced budget amendment were much closer to success in the 1990s. The amendment passed the House at that time, but failed in the Senate. In this Congress, it will fail in both chambers. I believe more people now know it is a gimmick than did so at that time.
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          by Gerry on Nov 20, 2011 at 10:47 AM in reply to
          Hmmm. Me again.
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        by conservative democrat on Nov 20, 2011 at 03:14 PM in reply to Reagan Republican
        the republicans have put on the table only tax icreases for the general public not big business and the rich you tea party republicans need to tell the truth, your lies have ruined America, by sending jobs over seas, by giving big business and the wealthy tax breaks!! you agree for state employees to pay 3% into their retirment and pay more on insurance, but yet the Senators who are republican tea partians by the way don,t pay the 3% and get free insurance for life!!
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 20, 2011 at 04:18 PM in reply to conservative democrat
          @ c. democrat The modern Tea Party groups have been formed in recent years across America. The successful marches under this organization have been during Pres. Obama's term. Jobs have been going overseas for decades and you make no correlation analysis. For some reason you want to blame it on the Tea Party? In the compromise to the Super Comm., the plan obviously did NOT say exclude all Corpt. and the rich. The wealthy do NOT receive tax breaks but pay the majority of the Federal Income tax. How is that a tax break? You are so biased that you condemn one elected party for state benefits but not the other elected party who receive the same benefits.
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          by Gerry on Nov 21, 2011 at 04:19 AM in reply to conservative democrat
          @RR The wealthy do not receive tax breaks? You have been misinformed. Long term capital gains are taxed at lower rates than ordinary income.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 21, 2011 at 11:25 AM in reply to conservative democrat
          @ Gerry Capital gains has always been a different rate than ordinary income tax brackets for Federal Income tax. All people purchase stocks and property, so, explain to me what you points is about capital gains and the rate.
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          by Gerry on Nov 21, 2011 at 06:25 PM in reply to conservative democrat
          @RR That's quite funny and shows how out of touch you are and how little credibility you have. I am sorry to inform you that not all people purchase stocks and property. In 2006, the .3% with AGI over $1,000,000 reported 15% of AGI and 61% of capital gains. Source: Tax Policy Center
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:19 PM in reply to conservative democrat
          @ Gerry The majority of people in America CAN decide to purchase stocks or property over their lifetime. Yes, I agree that the more you purchase of stocks or property can increase or decrease your money flow. It is called capitalism. A future higher capital gains rate, I describe as a tax increase and a future lower capital gains rate, you describe as a tax break. It all depends on ideology, which we both know you and I are on opposite sides of our manner of thinking. Also, would you stop with the demeaning and childlike personal attacks towards me and other posters whom you disagree with, because it make you seem immature.
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          by Gerry on Nov 22, 2011 at 01:18 AM in reply to conservative democrat
          @RR As I think about it, the handful of people who applied for welfare and failed the state drug test should not be ineligible for welfare for a year. Instead, the state should confiscate their stocks and property. Obviously, they purchase stocks and property since all people do. At least, according to you. Many welfare recipients are driving around in gold plated Cadillacs.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:44 AM in reply to conservative democrat
          @ Gerry I need to inform you that the majority of people in America are not on welfare. There you go again going to the extremes which causes your point to diminish. I NEVER made a comment about the type of vehicle someone chooses to drive and that comment is ironic.
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          by Gerry on Nov 22, 2011 at 03:34 PM in reply to conservative democrat
          @RR You didn't say the majority of people purchase stocks and property. You said all people purchase stocks and property. I don't blame you for denying you said it. You said it at 2:25 PM Monday. "There you go again"? You're quoting St. Reagan to me. How quaint.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 22, 2011 at 04:58 PM in reply to conservative democrat
          @ Gerry Glad you like the quote :) I stated in capital letters the word CAN to replace ALL in a previous post. You would rather go on a tantrum about the use of one word instead of validating your viewpoints. Did you notice one of your post on this page was deleted? Why?
  • by Wow on Nov 19, 2011 at 06:47 AM
    These idiots (Republicants) are set on putting all the middle class folks and below in a precarious place. Hope their mom's and dad's aren't relying on a social security check to live. With all this cutting and no revenue increases, these are the folks who will hurt the most with their rediculous thought process.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 19, 2011 at 05:28 AM
    The latest offer by the republicans would not have met the 1.2 trillion in defecit reduction required to prevent the automatic cuts in spending, including huge cuts to defense.
  • by Georgia Boy Location: Cairo on Nov 19, 2011 at 03:06 AM
    The Democrats are like a drug addict who says, "I'm quitting, but first I must have more drugs." They say they will cut spending, but first MORE revenue is needed. Money and power are the drugs of choice for them, and giving them more to throw away to reduce spending is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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      by conservative democrat on Nov 20, 2011 at 03:18 PM in reply to Georgia Boy
      the same can be said for republican tea partians, except their the drug dealers, they want to cut taxes on the wealthy and raise it on the middle class because they say they need more money to create jobs!!
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        by Reagan Republican on Nov 20, 2011 at 04:21 PM in reply to conservative democrat
        @ c. democrat What the h*ll are you talking about? Your entire statement is all lies, lies, lies.
  • by God Bless America Location: tally on Nov 18, 2011 at 05:07 PM
    People of America reject Obama and the Obama Administration. Liberals who say they don't, but the really do. The just don't realize it now. But in time they will.
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      by conservative democrat on Nov 19, 2011 at 05:32 AM in reply to God Bless America
      America bless God, and reject the tea party republican way, who say they are patriotic while sending our jobs over seas, who say they are for the people, but want to give all the breaks and monies to the rich and wealthy big corporations, who are claiming $$$ in profits but continue not to hire just give their CEO's billions!!
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      by grady on Nov 19, 2011 at 05:43 AM in reply to God Bless America
      huh? i liberal are but say i do.
  • by Joe Chiara on Nov 18, 2011 at 04:42 PM
    The super Commitee is a farce We new it and now it has come to pass.
  • by Anonymous on Nov 18, 2011 at 02:20 PM
    But...but...wait...I thought the Republicans were "the party of no".
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      by Gerry on Nov 18, 2011 at 06:41 PM in reply to
      This comment has been deleted.
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        by Reagan Reuplican on Nov 18, 2011 at 09:10 PM in reply to Gerry
        @ Gerry Funny, now you are posting complete lies to back up your outrageous comments about the Repub. party and their supporters who want spending cut percentages to be much higher than increased tax revenue. The "rich" (1%) DO pay the majority of taxes demanded from them every year by the Govt. for the Federal Income tax. I am thankful for the amount they do pay, so, the rest of us (51%) do not have to pay MORE in Federal income taxes to the prevailing winds of WASTE in Washington. The Bush tax cuts DECREASED the Federal income taxe percentages of the middle class and the poor too. We are now allowed to deduct the twice the amount for each child tax credit, home mortgage interest deductions, student loan deductions and on and on... We need a complete overhaul of the tax system in America to make it simple and FAIR for all. If the 47% would pay just $45 dollars a month towards the Federal Income tax, the Govt. could raise an extra $50-60 Billion every year. Everyone should pay Federal income taxes because they benefit from living in America and being protected by the Dept of Defense and other Federal agencies.
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          by Gerry on Nov 19, 2011 at 08:33 AM in reply to Reagan Reuplican
          I defy anyone to read an entire mind-numbing post of yours. Your arithmetic is wrong because you don't know how many households there are in the US. 47% of households pay no federal income taxes. You're right. Tax the poor. People below the poverty line should pay more in taxes. The working poor should pay more. People who have nothing and earn nothing should pay more. If you so envy the poor, why don't you trade places with a poor person?
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM in reply to Reagan Reuplican
          @ Gerry Do you really believe that 47% of Americans cannot afford to set aside less than $10.00 a week to go towards the Federal income tax? You want us to believe that all of those working Americans are below the poverty line? NOT.... Everyone who can pay towards the Federal income tax SHOULD contribute, even if it is a small amount of money because they reap the benefits too. Fair is fair....
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          by Gerry on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM in reply to Reagan Reuplican
          @RR 47% of HOUSEHOLDS pay no federal income tax. $45 per month is MORE than $10 per week. You are embarrassing me. Repeat these statements until you understand them and they are second nature to you. A person earning $7 per hour for 2,000 hours pays $1,071 in FICA taxes.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM in reply to Reagan Reuplican
          @ Gerry There is $20 difference between $520 a year or $540 towards the suggestion of 47% paying Federal income tax, so take your pick. I am commenting on FEDERAL income tax as I stated in my post repeatedly not FICA/SS. You debate like you are a young child.
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          by Gerry on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:48 AM in reply to Reagan Reuplican
          @ RR I believe 75% of households pay more in FICA taxes than they do in federal income taxes.
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        by dog on Nov 19, 2011 at 04:53 AM in reply to Gerry
        Gerry go occupy something your an Idiot they miss you .
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          by The Breeze on Nov 20, 2011 at 02:03 PM in reply to dog
          HAAAAAAHAAAAA!!!!
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        by NE republican on Nov 19, 2011 at 08:11 AM in reply to Gerry
        Gerry, get off the drugs, food stamps and welfare and get a job. If the feds were robbing your paycheck every 2 weeks, you'd be playing a much different tune. We're sick of supporting dead beat libs like you.
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          by conservative democrat on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:08 PM in reply to NE republican
          and we the 99% are tired of the tea party republicans giveing bailouts to big business and oil while their C.E.O.'s billions WOW what happened to the tea party rallies anyway?? out rallied by occupy wall street??
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          by Reagan Republcian on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:57 AM in reply to NE republican
          @ c. democrat Where is your proof that the TEA PARTY supports bailouts to big business and oil? Prove your comment. Might I suggest you read a recent article by a Tea Party founder Karl Denninger about OWS to increase your knowledge.
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        by conservative democrat to Reagan Republican on Nov 20, 2011 at 03:48 PM in reply to Gerry
        read and listedned to the article, Karl Denninger said himself the orginal tea party was for less governement but todays tea party republicans are for cutting taxes on the middle class Taxed enough already !! they are saying big business and cooporations are taxed enough already, that is why the original tea party is backing and joining OWS you talk about cutting spending but the Republican canidates running for president all say if they are elected they will go to war with Iran! who will pay for this?? I agree we need to stop spending, but we need to stop all spending except what is neccessary for this country!!
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 21, 2011 at 12:55 AM in reply to conservative democrat to Reagan Republican
          @ c. democrat Thanks for reading the articles written by Karl Denninger and now you understand my frustration at your previous comments. Personally, I want all troops home from Irag and Afgan. and no more funding for foreign countries and their military. China is increasing their military might with the interest money payments they receive from our borrowing. I don't know if this is true but I was told the US debt money finances over 50% of their military costs.
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      by Gerry on Nov 21, 2011 at 05:38 AM in reply to
      You misunderstood. The Republican Party is the party of no taxes for the rich and no future for the middle class.
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        by Regan Republican on Nov 21, 2011 at 06:19 PM in reply to Gerry
        @ Gerry What is your monetary definition of rich, middle class, and poor? You are well aware that the Bush tax plan reduced taxes more per population basis percentage for the middle class and poor. The "rich" are the people who pay the majority of the Federal income taxes and you comment the Repub. are for "no" taxes on the rich. What's up with that lie?
  • by Gerry Location: Tallahassee on Nov 18, 2011 at 01:58 PM
    The Balanced Budget Amendment in the House today received 261 votes from 426 members who voted. In other words, it was approved by 61.3% of those who voted, well short of 2/3 needed to approve an amendment to the Constitution. I heard a little of the debate and heard Steny Hoyer, the Dem whip, say that it takes no courage to cut taxes. That's a funny line and true.
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      by Reagan Republican on Nov 18, 2011 at 09:18 PM in reply to Gerry
      @ Gerry Personally, I have come to the conclusion thay you don't pay Federal Income taxes to the Govt because if you did EVERY year, you would not be laughing at increasing taxes for the 53% that pay those taxes. It takes courage to STOP spending when you are running out of borrowed money and the ship is sinking financially. GET REAL.... Check out the results of today's WCTV's poll.
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        by Gerry on Nov 19, 2011 at 08:24 AM in reply to Reagan Republican
        You seem to have an unlimited supply of foolish remarks. "...running out of borrowed money"? What does that mean? The US borrows for 10 years at 2.01%. That sounds to me like lenders are plentiful. Greece borrows for 10 years at 28.85%. Greece is what it looks like when a country is running out of borrowed money and sinking financially. You have zero credibility. You don't know what you're talking about.
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          by Reagan Republican on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM in reply to Gerry
          @ Gerry Check out the results of the local WCTV poll and don't forget to call all of them who want a balanced budget foolish and not credible too. Your answer is to borrow more money and I assume you don't care about that because your not the one who is going to have to pay it back in the way of Federal income taxes. Do some research on California (mini Greece) and find out how all of that over spending and big govt with big entitlements have wrecked their State.
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          by The Breeze on Nov 20, 2011 at 02:05 PM in reply to Gerry
          Gerry, are you a government employee? Be honest now.
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