Psychological Reasons Behind Hazing?

Tallahassee, FL -- May 24, 2012 --

Robert Champion's parents say they don't believe their son willingly agreed to be hazed.

Dr. Barbara Barnes, who's dedicated to stop hazing, says the need to belong is so powerful that it makes some people set aside their values.

She describes beatings such as Champion's as a "mafia mentality."

Barnes, a former FAMU professor, says, "This was an example of human cruelty. For one person just passing, beating and beating. When do you stop?"

For the FAMU Marching 100 members performing a hazing ritual November 19th, it didn't stop- until they made it from the front to the back of a charter bus while being beat.

For drum major Robert Champion, it ended in death.

"I would have to say he just succumbed to the weakness of, overpowered by if I don't do this, then I'll be looked upon as a weakling. He rerouted his value system, which he shouldn't have done."

Barnes says many young people participate in hazing because of a sense of wanting to belong.

In the released interviews from Champion's death investigation, band members said they participated in hazing rituals to get respect.

"You don't get it like that." Says, Dr. Barnes.

FAMU band member Ryan Dean told investigators, "It wasn't kind of like a forced thing. It was just you're the rank sergeant, you're in control. I didn't like it but, I willingly did it."

Band members admit to going to great lengths for "respect."

Marc Baron, another band member, added, "Some people use their fists. They kick, use drum sticks. Are they using the drum stick to stab you with it? No. It's like hit your across the back. Like playing like you're a drum? Yeah."

Dr. Barnes says hazing can oftentimes be traced back to high school. She says more than 1.5 million high school students are subjected to hazing.

Barnes says parents can make a difference by teaching their kids that they are loved, and schools can provide environments that allow student to speak up with it comes to hazing.

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  • by John Location: Tally on May 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM
    Why is it that blacks haze more than whites? Also why are there more blacks in prison? Also why are there more blacks on welfare? Oh yes I remember, inequality and being held down by the man. I call bs.
  • by MR on May 25, 2012 at 09:20 PM
    So you didn't find all the errors in your story? That's truly pathetic. "...they made it from the front to the back of a charter bus while being [beat] beaten." "It's like hit [your] you across the back." "...provide environments that allow [student] students to speak up [with] when it comes to hazing." If you worked for me, I'd fire you.
  • by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM
    Mr and Mrs Champion I am pulling for you guys. You have more Grace than I will ever have.
  • by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 09:52 AM
    Did she play the role of the queen in "Coming to America"?
  • by Frank on May 25, 2012 at 06:21 AM
    Way too much 'psychobabble' here. Speaking only to only the initiating (it was not called hazing in my day) in mens clubs, it's only one thing, are you tough enough to deal with it. Whether you think that is right or wrong, that's what it is. Having to endure physical testing or maybe even a few 'licks' with a ping pong paddle is one thing but some of the current stuff I have heard about, is downright vulgar.
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      by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 07:46 AM in reply to Frank
      I agree, murder is downright vulgar!
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        by Frank on May 25, 2012 at 09:53 AM in reply to
        Sorry, the licks and physical testing stuff was referring only to things regarding my initiation in our Letterman Club in high school. The stuff I have heard regarding some of 'today's' initiation rites in colleges and what happened to Robert Champion, is not that.
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          by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 12:00 PM in reply to Frank
          But even the licks you endured were illegal!
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          by Frank on May 25, 2012 at 08:13 PM in reply to Frank
          @anonymous. Not illegal in 1964.
  • by TBD on May 25, 2012 at 05:50 AM
    To our many beloved Historical Black Colleges and Universities staff, alumni, students and local community supporters, we have reached a critical time for change. It saddens me to be in the position of reacting when we should've been  proactively standing against the destructive, immature and unlawful practices that some call tradition. Our rich and proud traditions have recently been shadowed with unlawful and corrupt actions. We have even entered into the depth of carless behavior which have now resulted in a life ending heartache.  Our prestigious Institutions were built to  combat segregation  and discrimination during the time of Jim Crow.  Let us uphold the standards which were set to enhance those young creative minds and enrich our society with productive citizens. We must rebuke the salvage tactics that were used to oppress us, but maintain the vision of self empowerment and continue to support all HBCU institutions.  
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      by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 07:48 AM in reply to TBD
      This is why Ammons, and probably even more of the staff should be let go. It isn't just making policies and forgetting what goes on daily. They should have been proactive instead of reactive.
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      by Wow. Great. on May 25, 2012 at 08:01 AM in reply to TBD
      Eloquent words. And very well said. I agree with you completely. But I wonder if you would mind please reposting that in eubonics at the street thug level so the inhabitants of FAMU can understand it? I have serious doubts 99.999% of them have any clue what you just said.
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        by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 09:14 PM in reply to Wow. Great.
        It's time to do away with "HBCU" institutions, which are probably borderline constitutional now. It's time for change. After all, FSU began as a women's college.
  • by Dee on May 25, 2012 at 05:11 AM
    Sorry Dr. Barnes (wonder what she's a doctor of...), that mentality certainly should have been grown out of by the time someone is in their 20s. And parents should "teach their kids they are loved"?? Wow. That's a good one - if you need to TEACH your kids they are loved you must be a pathetic parent!
  • by john Location: florida on May 25, 2012 at 03:29 AM
    hazing is not murdering. can you imagine what would have happened if the "band" members on that bus were white? Here come jesse.
  • by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 03:29 AM
    I am so sick of see these highly educated people get on associated with the University, and defend the action of these thugs by impaling champion wanted this and was at fault. She and the others like her our the problem. When you have teachers explaining and trying to justify it you have a culture that is breeding the activity.
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      by Exactly on May 25, 2012 at 07:45 AM in reply to
      This is exactly what I've been trying to say. Some of the students (band members) at FAMU behave the way they do because it is condoned by the faculty and administration. It is so sickening that this woman, an educator of all things, would actually try to explain (justify) this away. She should be ashamed and to all of you other so-called black educators and leaders that think you know so much, please stay away from the microphone and cameras. You do not make me proud.
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        by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM in reply to Exactly
        FROM FSU Afro-American ALUMNI, I agree, the reasons the students feel it is okay to haze and participate in hazing is because their professors/faculty members allow it or "turn the other cheek" so to speak. It may be a tradition, but you don't haze to the point of death or killing someone. FAMU is a great school, but some changes need to occur and for the BETTER!!!!!!!!!!
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        by FSU ALUMNI on May 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM in reply to Exactly
        I agree with you "Exactly", the students haze because they think it is part of tradition and is accepted by professors and other administrators at FAMU. I will say it again FAMU is a great school, but some changes need to occur for the BETTER.
  • by Every man that beats a women can say she agree to the lifestyle that is why she stayed if she died it was her fault because she agree to participate in the relationship on May 25, 2012 at 03:26 AM
    I don't care if he did agree to be really hazed. Many people knowingly agree to parachute glide, unless you explain the dangers have them sign a released you are company are responsible for their death If you take them parachute gliding and decided to deliberate find the roughest patch of shark infested water because you want to teach them a lesson and pay them back and they die in the process you are charged with assult and murder. If you take then parachute gliding and shoot paint guns at then or form some other kind of assault during and activity they agree to you are still going to be charged with assault and murder if they die.
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      by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 07:49 AM in reply to Every man that beats a women can say she agree to the lifestyle that is why she stayed if she died it was her fault because she agree to participate in the relationship
      Do you know the difference between an assault and a battery?
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        by Anonymous on May 25, 2012 at 10:51 AM in reply to
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