Break time at Athens' New York Business College. A bunch of students set on getting qualified, then quitting the country.
"Don't you think that your country needs people like you?"
"They do but there's no opportunity. People are closing, stores are closing, strikes are making it very difficult for people to even go to school and work"
His friend Hrack Altunyan thinks it's more deep-rooted than that. "If you take a Greek guy and leave him in Greece he will do nothing. If you take a Greek guy and move him to Canada, Australia he will do great things."
There's a special course here on greece and the crisis. An attempt to try and buck the trend and keep the young back home.
'It's all about finding the presence of mind to go against what has been built and to declare it defunct. Its something only young people can do."
But it seems the young generation feel the principles of democracy in their country broke down long ago. They say they feel cheated by their politicians - and by their own parents and grandparents. For creating a mess of monumental proportions that no one's able to clear up. Talk to older generations and they'll freely admit much of the blame lies with greek society.
"I believe we have to earn our living. For the last ten years we've been living with loans. Not just since the last ten years, but since the revolution of 1821 we've been bankrupt five times. We don't get the lesson from that."
In 1821 Field-Marshal Theodoros Kolokotronis fought for independence from the Ottomans ... And won. Now greece faces the option of dependence on european paymasters ... Or a fate that may be far worse.
Sadly for Greece, many of the young who could fight for its future say they're not prepared to stick around.